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matthew bowles's avatar

Before we all disappear down a rabbit hole of despair it is worth reading another commentator who, instead of critisising Labour from the Left addresses the problem head on in another post on Substack. I'm not in anyway detracting from Nick's excellent article here but activists need hope not despair in the struggle against the far Right. Paul Mason says that, '...let’s focus on what doesn’t work: left-wing identity politics, which basically says – against your St George flag I will wave the flag of Palestine (or worse, Hezbollah); against your white identity I will assert my queerness etc. While every activist has a right to do this - as a strategy it would be disastrous'. This is a snippet from a much longer piece it's well worth reading.

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Gary Kirwan's avatar

Totally depressing, I thought we had seen the back of the National Front and BNP, making sure they were marginalised and not able to march through our streets. Here we are in 2025, this is what our children now face, tragic beyond belief. Farage the greatest traitor to this country, since Lord haw haw.

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Serial461's avatar

So, if I’ve got this right, Farage’s economic growth plan is basically people trafficking?

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Nick Cohen's avatar

And it’s an economic growth plan - for the Taliban! We will pay them

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Cathy's avatar

To kill the translators.

Remember Tories leaked the names and covered it up?

Ugh he's a grifter.

Like trump can capture a room but hates the work and won't work, gets flustered asked about detail. Looks stupid and angry when he does.

His tik tok gives me the ik. The 12/13 y old teenage boys he is grooming for a vote in 2029 uses same micro targeted followers Tate does. A cloned following …

They were 3

When he wrecked their futures.

How will the know what he did to them

How will they miss the opportunity they never had.

Do they know Putin war criminal dictator is bad?

Or what freedom of movement looks like?

They were robbed of life chances.

Now he's moulding children brains to be his mob to extract their vote. To imprint loyalty?

Creepy pervert.

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Serial461's avatar

Can we start a Reasonable Majority Party?

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John Pritchard's avatar

Charles Moore is pretty reactionary, so it's encouraging to see him nailing the obvious Vichy parallel.

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Matt's avatar

You should see the comments on that article. The Telegraph readers trash him as a centrist globalist "Lib Dum". And that's the polite ones.

It's genuinely scary that so many retired accountants and small businessmen have enough spare time to publicly demonstrate how their dementia is progressing.

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Will Liley's avatar

Ah, “retired colonel from Tunbridge Wells”…

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Cannes Doodle's avatar

Depressingly on the button. Glad I live in France, watching the sandcastle of democracy standing firm against the tide. Time for some vodka-laced Vichy.

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Kate Decker's avatar

Once again, Nick Cohen hits every nail squarely. Great, insightful analysis of what is taking place in UK, the US, and parts of the world elsewhere.

The author of The Little Red Book said, in 1949: "Right comes out of the barrel of a gun."

-- Mao Tse-Tung also hit the nail squarely. -- Kate Delano-Condax Decker

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William Titelman's avatar

I have been saying to my friends and family for the last few years that it seems the world is entering a modern version of the “Dark Ages”. How many decades will it take before it turns around?

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Roxane's avatar

Decades or centuries? Climate change, which will be accelerated under these far right forces, will make migration worse as country after country succumbs to food and water shortages, exacerbated by bad governance.

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Derek Jones's avatar

Martin Luther King famously stated that he would have to "repent... not only for the evil words and deeds of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people”.

There are activists on the left and the right. At least they believe in something, even if they are wrong. But the people that depress me the most are the people ‘in the middle’ that do nothing.

But that’s probably unfair, because a lot of people are just too scared to put their heads above the parapet. I should be sympathetic to that I guess. Bad times no doubt.

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Lee's avatar

Every time our family meet at some point the phrase ‘thank God we emigrated’ will be uttered

Have a Brit stay at my work yesterday, I was talking about how when I was little I didn’t want to leave and before I could get to the end he said, with real feeling ‘you must be so glad now though’ and it was like he was talking about someone who’d escaped something, it really is a broken country and whether it’s the media’s fault or not is debatable but God knows they haven’t helped

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Milton Lock's avatar

"Keir Starmer’s Labour government did not take Farage on. It is now so browbeaten it meekly said instead..."

Labour is finished because it is scared & it's enemies can smell it. On the three main events of our age - the Crash of 2008, Brexit & the Trump presidency, they say nothing, pretending they can carry on as if it's still 1999. Business as usual with the EU, America is still our friend, & "economic growth" will start working again. And everyone knows it's not going to happen.

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John Woods's avatar

Tell me what the Tories are doing differently? Starmer is as amazed as I am at the expectations of the voters. Even experienced journalists expect an instant reversal of 14 years of Tory misrule, which the voters are responsible for, especially Brexit and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Now they are pretending that nothing went wrong when we have lost £100 billion in Trade and £40 billion in tax revenues and the boats started in 2018 and were in full flow on 4 July 2024. It is called hypocrisy in its truest sense yet most of the Media, including the BBC give them leave to practice hypocrisy.

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Milton Lock's avatar

TBH apart from Jenrick's self-promotion as Reform clone party leader-in-waiting, I couldn't tell you what the Tories are doing at all. Apparently Badenoch is still "leader" or something, at least for now.

Not that it matters, because come the next election they won't even be in Opposition, never mind power.

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matthew bowles's avatar

Complete defeatist attitude. Men make history, remember, even if it's not in circumstances of their own choosing. The traditional Left is finished but the new left represented by Starmer's government is not.

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Milton Lock's avatar

It's Labour's defeatist attitude I'm worried about. I wasn't voting for a New Jerusalem or expecting an economic miracle, & I'll probably vote for our (decent) Labour MP again. But the impression they constantly give is of weakness & fear. Most Reform supporters I know (mainly ex-Tory voters) don't just hate Labour (they always did), they despise them. There's a difference. They smell blood, in a way they didn't with New Labour before the Crash. I hope you're right & I'm wrong, & certainly have no axe to grind with Starmer, but I can smell blood too.

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Cathy's avatar

Thanks for highlighting the Arthur Snell take yesterday. I appreciated the way he separated all of the corroborating reports and sources that would be unnoquivically clarifying to readers who've just assumed what some talking heads have said, his series of field notes ‘ ‘Dossier‘ was not a serious work. In reality his HUMINT has been exceptional… Harsh from Woodward I thought. Perhaps he was angry with himself for his own diminished integrity that Steele oozes. He's impressive.

Clarifying . A rare thing.

Americans on the whole have absolutely no clue what he did out of principle and moral duty to warn. It was the right thing to do.

So Confusing & frustrating to know what you know, the house is on fire, you ring Emergency shout 🔥🔥, and the authorities 🚒 you called sat on their hands for 6 months.

Who kept Obama in the dark until last moment?

Everyone and their dog in new York knew the mob laundering, Azerbaijan tower , you can change the luxury marble and fixtures several times till Trumps beautiful launderette had served it's purpose… who's going to inspect, who will be liable for mothballing, ownership is safe behind ellaborate shell fronts.

You can stiff the contractors.

“What you gonna do about it”

He's so cheap and ignorant and artless.

White house looks like a “tarts boudoir “.

He reminded me of shvets also. I prefer Arthur's ‘ most likely ‘ take on that than mine.

As much as It seems v feisable Mossad traded info to Putin to leverage once elected

His friend Epstein and his infamous files, could just as easily get handed to Putin with Musk…considering the data breach by Russia who was piped in direct from Kremlin to the WH. WaPo reported regular personal conversations between Putin and musk. With a starlinkg satellite 📡 on the oval roof.

Anyhoo still not got a copy of unredacted 😔

Politicians are never punished for treason here or UK not in my lifetime. Billionaires never get punished for treason or espionage.

Flynn? Manafort ?Bannon? Hellllooooo

Market manipulation

Marshall wace. Gbn Farage debanking lies, shorting Natwest. Made billions to feed back into the corruption loop to make Farage trump/ Vance.

Johnson

Cummings

Brexit

The shit won't stick if we never talk about it.

Hope that is changing.

Truth is all we have left.

(Rafael Baehr piece today.) V good.

Lol will read this article now 😁

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Michael's avatar

Tim Montgomerie, Douglas Murray, Alastair Heath, Claire Fox, Alison Pearson, Camilla Tominney, Nigel Biggar, James Orr, Rod Liddle, Melanie Phillips, Paul Goodman, Matthew Goodwin, David Goodhart, Eric Kaufmann, Dominic Lawson, Paul Staines, all enabled for years by Fraser Nelson and now Gove.

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Nick Cohen's avatar

Sure. That's why it's interesting that he is changing his mind

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Ken Davies's avatar

Come friendly asteroid

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Nigel Southway's avatar

I had to hold my nose and keep the barf bucket handy when I read this nonsense….. what exactly is this writer on about?... the issue of too much immigration is an obvious long-term issue and the aggressive rhetoric is because the limp wristed liberal types did not listen to the voters and take care of it. And so of course it has festered. So maybe its time for a some more robust leadership…. If you think a move to the right toward nationalism to get things done is un-British you need to wake up matey.

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Rob Devaney's avatar

And we have Mary Harrington in Unherd reporting the shift towards outright fascism with a shrug of the shoulders, disgraceful...

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Arrr Bee's avatar

As for your weird comments about tweets being offenses that should land people in jail for years…SMH. What a deeply illiberal and dangerously anti-democratic statement. https://open.substack.com/pub/rudolphrigger/p/a-momentary-aberration

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Arrr Bee's avatar

Would help Labour (and in the US the Democratic Party) if it was able to be strict about not rewarding illegal immigration (as Obama was), and absolutely toss out every migrant involved in a felony as well. Instead, you get idiotic progressive ideologues defending immigrant offenders against citizens. This is how you get Farage and Trump, by letting progressives open their retarded mouths and spew their kook politics at a shocked public that wants law and order and stability. Progressives don’t champion “liberal democracy” either, and you know it. https://open.substack.com/pub/maxthinks/p/tinderbox-conditions?selection=16d6396c-eb90-4628-98d0-79dd8c3630bf

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